25 November 2011

ZOO TOUR NAME

The local zoo was looking for guidance for a name for a walking tour of the zoo, and offered its preliminary ideas:
1 Burraga Nura ... Zoo’s Aboriginal Discovery Tour
Language words burraga: long nosed bandicoot;  nura: country; 
2 Yana Nura ... Zoo’s Aboriginal Discovery Tour
Language words yana: walk; nura: country
What follows is the reply sent to the zoo.
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I would like to suggest a walking tour name such as :
manyinyi guwalang
I do not know for sure that Mr Bennelong would fully approve of the words, but I think he might just understand them if I could say them to him. I think he might understand something along the lines that . . . several of us are going to look for animals.
With regard to your two proposals

proposal
meaning
respelt
Burraga Nura
bandicoot camp
baraga ngura
Yana Nura
go camp
yana ngura
I would suspect Bennelong might not understand, or even recognise the language were intended to be his — because of the words chosen, possibly pronunciation, and the absence of appropriate suffix(es).
BANDICOOT
Of all the local animals in the zoo, why choose bandicoot?
The only Sydney language word I have for bandicoot is the one you provide, which is a 1901 Dharug word, by which time the language records were of doubtful reliability because the language itself was degraded.
"burraga" baraga = "Bandicoot" bandicoot  : Mathews DG 1901 [:158.2:31] [DG]
There are better attested words for kangaroo, for example.
There are also numerous words for ‘bandicoot’ in other languages in the region (but not ‘baraga’).
COUNTRY (‘place’, camp’)
‘Nura’ is an inaccurate spelling for the word for ‘camp’, if the examples below are a guide:

Original record
respelt
Original translation
new translation
source details
"Gno-rang"
ngurang =
"A place"
camp  place:
Collins 1 [:507.2:17] [BB]
"we-ree no-rar"
wiri nura =
"a bad country"
bad camp  :
Anon (c) [c:21:3] [BB]
"no-rar"
nura =
"a place or country"
camp  :
Anon (c) [c:21:2] [BB]





DHARUG




"Gnárah"
ngara =
"Camp"
camp  place:
Lang: NSW Vocab [:8:208] [DG]
"Gnarrah"
ngara =
"Place of abode or possession"
camp  place:
Lang: NSW Vocab [:8:228] [DG]
"Ngur´ra"
ngura =
"a camp"
camp  :
Mathews 8006/3/5 -5 [108–Dharug] [:110:16] [DG]
"ngurra"
ngura =
"Camp"
camp  place:
Mathews DG 1901 [:158.2:1] [DG]
"[Waree yannibee ngurreegoo]"
nguri-gu =
"[going away from the camp]"
camp to :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [23–DG] [:33:19.3] [DG]





SOUTH




"ngura"
ngura =
"camp"
camp  :
Mathews DWL 1901 [:129:14] [DWL]
"ngoora"
ngura =
"a camp; "
camp  :
Mathews DWL Grmr 1901 [:2:18.1] [DWL]
"ngura"
ngura =
"Hut "
camp  :
Mathews KML/Dwl [:277.1:8] [DWL]
"[ngura or ...]"
ngura =
"Camp "
camp  :
Mathews KML/Dwl [:277.1:2.1] [DWL]
"ngoorra"
ngura =
"Camp"
camp  :
Everitt, Mary: Folder/Doc Afa [:[84]:9] [Gga]
"Nguru"
nguru =
"a camp"
camp  :
Mathews 8006/3/5- No 2 [Vol. 2:46:3] [Gga]
"nguru"
nguru =
"Camp"
camp  :
Mathews NGWL [:303:96] [Gga/Ngwl]
"[Ngurìnì-munnagai ]"
nguri-ni =
"[Dative | to the camp come]"
camp to :
Mathews 8006/3/5- No 2 [Vol. 2:46:4.1] [Gga]





NORTH




"ngurra"
ngara =
"Camp"
camp  :
Mathews DARK 1903 [:280.2:37] [Dark]
"Nur´-râ"
nara =
"a camp"
camp  :
Enright GDG 1900 [:113:71] [Gdg]
"Ngurra"
ngara =
"Camp"
camp  :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [7:2:28] [Dark]
"ngara"
ngara =
"A camp"
camp  :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [7:76:14] [Dark]
"[Ngaragoo yanna]"
ngara-gu =
"[Come to the camp]"
camp to :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [7:76:15.1] [Dark]
"[nguragu yung]"
ngura-gu =
"[to the camp go]"
camp to :
Mathews D-GDI 1904 [:233:28.1] [D-DGI]
There are 19 ng--- examples in the above table but only 3 (really only 2) n--- examples, and one of those is from the Port Macquarie region.
The table also shows examples of how to say ‘to the camp’, which the second proposal implies (yana nura: go camp; it probably should be ‘yana ngura-gu’.
YAN-A
This would seem to be a correct form of the imperative ‘Go!’. Here is one example of it:
"Yan´na" ya-na = "to send any one" go  : Mathews 8006/3/5 -5 [108–Dharug] [:115:9] [DG]
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ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTION FOR TOUR NAME
On the assumption that what is intended on the zoo tour is to find animals, I have suggested:
manyinyi guwalang
The following table presents the reasoning for the suggestion.
FIND
William Dawes presents a word for find, ‘man’ (take) or ‘man-wari’ (lit. take away).
Whether he was right or wrong no-one can now say, but he was by far the best student of the language among the First Fleeters.
In the third example below he provides the word on which I have based the first word in my suggestion. All I have done is change the pronoun at the end from ‘-mi’ (thou, or you singular) to ‘-nyi’ (we-all).
The justification for this change is in line 8, which is the line where Dawes discovers the correct form of the ‘we-all’ pronoun (instead of we-two, which is all he had known prior to this moment). That is, -nyi rather than -ngun (we-two).


Original record
respelt
Original translation
new translation
source details
1
"Manwå´ri"
man-wari =
"To find (literally to take abroad)"
take  away:
Dawes (b) [b:17:7] [BB]
2
"Manwåridyaoú"
man-wari-dya-wu =
"I found or did find"
find did I:
Dawes (b) [b:17:8] [BB]
3
"[Wårími manyémi buk?]"
man-yi-mi =
"[Where did you find the book?]"
find did thou:
Dawes (b) [b:26:13.2] [BB]
4
"goa-long"
guwalang =
"The Emu (Maroang), the Patagorang, & ye “Menagine” (a small animal), are named "Goa-long". It is thought he [[Wolarewarrè]] means an animal, ..."
animal  :
King MS [:408:5] [BB]
5
"Goa-long"
guwalang =
"“ “Goa-long”, which term is supposed to mean an animal, as Wolarewarrè uses it in contradistinction to a bird or a fish: on being asked, if the Emu was a bird, (Binyan), he shook his head, and said, "Goa-long.” ”"
animal  :
King in Hunter [:413:12] [BB]
6
"Koolang"
gulang =
"Anything hunted — game."
animal  :
Lang: NSW Vocab [:9:236] [DG]
7
"jung-o"
dyangu =
"[Beasts) Common name"
animal  :
Collins 1 [:511.2:17] [BB]
8
"[“Bial nangadyíngun; Nangadyínye”]"
nanga-dyi-nyi =
"Hence nangadyíngun is dual We, & nangadyínye is Plural We"
sleep did we-all:
Dawes (b) [b:29:9.2] [BB]
Lines 4-7 are examples of ‘animal’. The explanation in line 5 is specific, though I own up to  a misgiving about it, partly from the following two words:

"patta-go-rang"
badagurang =
"kangaroo"
kangaroo  :
Collins 1 [:455:19] [BB]
"Burru-ga-rang"
barugarang =
"THE WORD "BURRU," —Kangaroo. Burru-ga-rang—Burragorang."
kangaroo big [?]  :
Russell: Recollections [:14:2] [Gga]
Both these words end in -gurang / -garang, and this is similar to the word suggested by me for ‘animal’, and makes me wonder if it is ‘animal’ at all, but rather an idea of ‘purpose’, or ‘what something is for’.
The stem of bada-gurang is bada, and this means ‘eat’. Did the Indigenous people look at a kangaroo as ‘eat-for’—something to be eaten?
The stem of the second example, baru-garang, is baru, possibly buru, meaning ‘kangaroo’:

"burru"
buru =
"kangaroo"
kangaroo  :
AL&T Rowley GeoR [:259:1] [DG]
"Bou-rou"
buru =
"Kangaroo"
kangaroo  :
King PP Syd [:635:6.6] [Syd]
How -gurang fits in here I do not know, but ‘purpose’ does not seem right.
It would seem that it might be safe to use line 7 instead of ‘guwalang’, although I would have thought that its real meaning were not ‘animal’ but ‘dog’ (dingo). But animal / dingo ought to suit the zoo’s purpose equally well.
So my preferred suggestions would be:
manyinyi guwalang
and alternatively:
manyinyi dyangu
EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURY SPELLINGS
The spellings used by the original recorders were mostly those of amateurs of goodwill, and show variety, evidenced in the first column of the examples above. I personally think it does not do justice to the language of the Indigenous inhabitants of the time to perpetuate such renderings. Accordingly my preferences are given in the second column of the above examples.
HOW IS THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ARRIVED AT?
Most of the examples are drawn from a database I have compiled over the past decade or more consisting of over 9000 entries. It has enabled me to find all these entries quickly.
This database for the Sydney language is supported by several others covering languages to the north and south of Sydney, for inland NSW, and another for interstate languages, as well as one for south-west WA. The total number of entries is probably around a quarter of a million.
FURTHER ASSISTANCE
Perhaps if you should be seeking further such assistance you might contact me at the outset rather than just use the Troy resource. The information within that resource is contained within the databases, constituting a minor portion of them.
Should you wish to see more on the grammar of the Sydney Language, I refer you to <http://hdl.handle.net/1959.14/738>
JEREMY STEELE
Friday 25 November 2011

11 October 2011

What does ‘yela’ mean?

SYDNEY WORDS
William Dawes of the First Fleet wrote, on page 35 of his notebook ‘b’:
P. Mr Faddy yéla Mr Clark yenyában Norfolk Island
Mr Faddy with Mr Clark went to Norfolk Island

This sentence arose in relation to the following journey to Norfolk Island recorded at the time by others:
March, 1790. [The Sirius] was ordered, in concert with the Supply, to convey major Ross, with a large detachment of marines, and more than two hundred convicts, to Norfolk [39] Island: ....... She sailed on the 6th of March. [Tench, 163]
[Tench, Watkin. 1979 [1789, 1793]. Sydney's First Four Years, being a reprint of 'A narrative of the Expedition to Botany Bay; with an account of New South Wales, its Productions, Inhabitants, &c., to which is subjoined, A List of the Civil and Military Establishments at Port Jackson' and 'A Complete Account of the Settlement at Port Jackson in New South Wales, including an accurate description of the Situation of the Colony; of the Natives; and of its Natural Productions'. Sydney: Library of Australian History in association with the Royal Australian Historical Society.]
Wednesday, 17th February [1790]
John Cobley in his summary of events through journal extracts recorded that Ralph Clark wrote in his diary on 17 February 1790 that Ross had approached him about going to Norfolk Island, and mentioned the ‘Faddy’ of Dawes’s sentence, among others.

The following are further verbatim extracts from Cobley [Cobley, John. 1963. Sydney Cove 1789-1790. Sydney: Angus & Robertson.]:
Friday, 26th February [1790]
Clark: “By the orders of yesterday, I see the officers that goes with Major Ross to Norfolk Island are Viz Capt Lieut Johnstone, 1st Lieut Kellow, Johnstone and Clark, 2 Lieuts Faddy and Ross, see the Orderly Book, and Creswell, is to remain there; so that there will be seven of use, beside Major Ross.” [Cobley, 1789-1790: p.154]
Sunday, 28th February [1790]
Clark: “By the Battn orders of this day I see on board what ships we are to embark for Norfolk. On board the Sirius, with the Commanding Officer, 1st Lieut Kellow, Johnstone and Clark, and 2d Lieut Ross. On board the Supply Capt Lieut Johnstone and 2d Lieut Faddy. Major [155] Ross asked in what ship I should wish to goe. I told in that ship he went in. He said that is the ship I should wish you to goe in.” [Cobley, 1789-1790: p.154]
Wednesday, 3rd March [1790]
Easty wrote: “Major Ross with Captn Lieut G Jonstone first Lieuts Kellow, J Jonstone and Clarke and 2d Lieuts faddy and Ross with 3 Serjts 4 Corpls 3 drums and 46 privts Embarked on bord the Sirous and Supply to Join first Lieut Creswel and 1 serjt and 14 privt now Doing Duty att Norfolk.”
Bradley: “Received on board the Sirius Major Ross, 4 Lieuts, 2 Serj, 2 Corpls, 2 Drums and 20 private Marines: The Supply received 1 Captain, 1 Lieut, 2 serjeants, 2 corporals and 26 private.” [Cobley, 1789-1790: p.158]
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The ‘P.’ at the beginning of the sentence in question indicates that it was uttered by Dawes’s teenage informant Patyegorang.
‘yenyában’ can be analysed yan-ya-ban, in which ‘yan’ means ‘go’ and ‘-ya’ is a past tense indicator. The meaning of the suffix -ban is unclear, but the sentence suggests that it is a bound pronoun for ‘they-two’. However, the suffix -ban also occurs in several other examples which throw doubt on this interpretation. Nevertheless, for the present review of ‘yela’ -ban can be taken to signify ‘they-two’.

yila: a pronoun?
Could ‘yela’ be a pronoun?  Consider the following examples, especially the second column.  Given that early list compilers often either did not hear, or did not know how to record, an initial ng- sound, ‘yela’ written by Dawes might well have in reality been ‘ngyila’, ‘nyila’ or similar. Pronoun possibilities abound in the Sydney region, and elsewhere.

"Ngyéllu"
ngyílu =
"We three only"
we-all only  :
Dawes (b) [b:27:6] [BB]

"nyilla"
nyila =
"this (agent) (past & future]"
this fellow  :
Mathews DWL 1901 [:140:10.3] [Dwl]
[many examples];
"nyilli"
nyili =
"If the individual represented by the pronoun is doing some act, nyilli is used "
this fellow  :
Mathews DWL 1901 [:140:8.1] [Dwl]
 [many examples];
"[Ngullamanyilla]"
nyila =
"[we sit (excl.)]"
we-all  :
Mathews GGA 1901 [:154:16.1] [Gga]
[30 examples]
"Wabbaloonyillee"
waba-lu-nyili =
"We all [are beating each other]"
beat  RECIP we-all:
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [:99:5] [Gga/Ngwl]
 [4 examples]
Nga-an"
ngiyin =
"the plural pronoun, we."
we-all  :
Tkld/Frsr AWA Spec Dial (G.) [G:135:10] [Awa]

"[Gureyn-yang(a)"
-nyang =
"[We-all] [pl, incl.]"
we-all  :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [7:75:10.2] [Dark]

"[Ngullea bondillittanyang]"
ngaliya =
"[We are eating]"
we-two  :
Mathews 8006/3/7- No 7 [7:77:3.1] [Dark]


 But if ‘yela’ were a pronoun, the above examples suggest the translation of the sentence would need to be one of:
—Faddy we-two Clark went to Norfolk Island
—Faddy this/that (fellow) Clark went to Norfolk Island
It could hardly have been ‘we-two’, because Patyegorang was talking about others, and not ‘we’. So the demonstrative pronoun ‘this/that’ might be considered a possibility.
yila: meaning ‘with’?
Dawes gives the translation ‘with’, and indeed in Aboriginal languages a suffix occurs termed ‘comitative’, meaning ‘in company with’—which could apply in this case. (There are other uses of ‘with’, one being known as ‘instrumental’ as in ‘I hit him with a stick’.) Unfortunately there do not appear to be any examples in the Sydney language records of a comitative suffix—other than possibly this one of going to Norfolk Island ‘with’ Faddy/Clark.
Languages of the region do have examples of comitative ‘with’; but they are regrettably few (in Wiradhuri), and while plentiful to the north and south of Sydney, all instances look nothing at all like ‘yila’.
yila: as an adverb?
Several ‘yila’-type records were found in Kamilaroi, as an adverb. These looked promising. The following are a few examples:

"yela"
yila =
"Soon"
presently:
AL&T Greenway (Ridley) [KML] [:242:11] [KML]
"yila"
yila =
"then (at once)"
recently  soon:
KAOL Ridley [KML] [:35:27] [KML]
"Yila"
yila =
"soon: often used before this tense of the verb [future]"
soon  :
KAOL Ridley [KML] [:8:23.1] [KML]
"ila"
yila =
"Soon"
soon  :
Mathews KML/Dwl [:268:2.2] [KML]
"yilhaatho"
yilada =
"Immediately"
now  :
AL&T Greenway (Ridley) [KML] [:241:6.1] [KML]
"yilladhu"
yiladu =
"Now"
now  :
Mathews KML/Dwl [:268:2.1] [KML]
"yelambo"
yilamba =
"Before long, or not long ago"
presently  just now:
AL&T Greenway (Ridley) [KML] [:242:12] [KML]
Here is ‘yila’ as an adverb of time: just a little ahead or behind the present — so either ‘presently’ or ‘just now’. In pursuing this line of enquiry your researcher uncovered two adverb-of-time examples from Wiradhuri, featuring the closely related ‘yala-’:

"Yallul"
yalul =
"always"
always  :
Günther WIRA (Fraser) [:107:38] [WIRA]
"[Ngindu yallabul wibiagirri]"
yalabul =
"[you shall sit down always]"
always  :
Günther WIRA (Fraser) [:110:36.1] [WIRA]

And to the south of Sydney, ‘yila’ appeared to crop up once again as an adverb, but of place rather than time:

"Yellungadyen"
yilanga-dyin =
"Behind me"
behind  me:
Mathews 8006/3/5 -5 [:128:31] [Dwl]
"yellungali"
yilanga-li =
"last"
last  :
Mathews DWL 1901 [:149:25.2] [Dwl]
Finally, a trace of a 'yila' lookalike was encountered to the north, in the Gadang language north of Newcastle:

"U-lit´-tin"
yalidin =
"after"
after  :
Enright GDG 1900 [:114:29] [G:dg]

So, in conclusion, what does ‘yela’ mean in the sentence:
Mr Faddy yéla Mr Clark yenyában Norfolk Island
Given that Dawes translated it in the past tense:
Mr Faddy with Mr Clark went to Norfolk Island

it would seem that rather than as ‘presently’, ‘yila’ might in fact be translated as ‘just now’, or ‘recently’. And certainly not as ‘with’.

[JS: Tuesday 11 October 2011]